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rs503 |
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Well said Xenasgrrl.
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xenawp7706 |
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I agree. I also feel like a friend, and only when Lucy wants to share her life by her own will, than I am happy to hear that, not when she is forced to do so
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rsine69 |
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Xenasgrrl wrote:Honestly, this is exactly why I feel that celebs should never divulge too much of their personal info about their private lives to their fans especially when their children are concerned. When they (the celebs) do, many fans tend to see a personal connection to the celeb which in reality doesn't exist and all it takes is just one emotionally disturbed individual with a gun who feels that they share one with the object of their obsession. That's why in my opinion, if Lucy did allow the footage of her children out, it was not a smart thing to do on her part and I still very firmly disagree with the decision to post the link. Sorry but I'm not gonna budge on this. |
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Xenasgrrl |
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I'm pretty sure Lucy and Rob can handle things, and have been quite splendidly for over a decade.
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Xenasgrrl wrote:I'm sure they can but you can never be too careful and it only takes one nutjob. Just Google celebrity stalkers and you'll notice that each case involved a fan with too much access to a celeb's personal info. Besides, with all the venom that many fans spat at them over A FRIEND IN NEED, I'm surprised they (Rob and Lucy) aren't being more careful. On a more personal note, I think fans need to stop focusing so much on the private lives of TV celebs and focus more on achieving something with their own.
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nightsarah |
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Successful actors are quite aware that along with the work comes the repercussions. Actors do share an element of their personal life with the public - it
comes with the job and they are very well aware of that. Lucy has not exposed any detrimental information to expose her personal life, nor anything that could
put her life in danger. Celebrities do need to live too, and I do not think it is fair of you to condemn Lucy as unwise because she chooses not to seclude
herself in a hole just because "you can never be too careful". What do you think would have happened if Lucy kicked up a fuss about the papz filming
her? Do you think they would retire silently or do you think it would further provoke interest into her life? Lucy didn't start dancing in the airport with
her kid, she simply smiled politely and got on with her day - she knew how to handle them and thus they treated her with respect, leaving her and her child
alone. Lucy has always been respectful and devoted to her fans - keeping in contact with them and constantly giving back to them what we gave her (through
concerts and convention appearances and the like). Lucy willingly posts blogs to keep this "friendship" with her fans. Not only is it a nice thing to
do, but by doing so, she knows we will support her as an actor in her future endeavors. If we showed no interest in Lucy, she would not be the successful
performer she is today; therefore she shows interest in us by maintaining a connection to us. It is not fair to judge her parenting skills because she
didn't kick up a fuss about being filmed in an airport - she is trained much more than you or I in the industry. It is not as if we are watching secret
footage of Lucy walking around in her home or condoning a media supported invasion of her privacy - it is a public event that is simply something we can all
relate to. You cannot categorize all footage of a celebrity to being wrong or right - some is reasonable and some is not. We all love Lucy and she has made it
clear that she enjoys the relationship we all share with her - we mean well and respect her as a brilliant performer and mentor to many. It is obvious that so
many of us would never do anything to support an invasion of her privacy and due to Lucy's wisdom, this rarely happens. We enjoy keeping in touch with Lucy
and she condones and fuels this relationship - seeing us not as "nut jobs" but as faithful supporters. She may have rathered her son not be there,
however she handled it well and there was no harm done - it was all in good taste.
"Don't be shy, your mother wasn't" - Xena
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nightsarah |
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rsine69 wrote:I don't think Xena fans are overly obsessed with the cast of the show, and I don't think it is fair to suggest that by showing interest in our mentors that we have done nothing with our lives. That's a little harsh, don't you think? "Don't be shy, your mother wasn't" - Xena
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rsine69:
I'm sure Lucy has been in the business long enough to judge for herself how safe or unsafe her children are and how to handle these situations. Neither Lucy nor her fans need to be told what decisions to make in their lives. Suggesting that Lucy's fans don't have lives is disrespectful to those fans, so this is a reminder of our rules of respect for members of the board. JustSayNoToNutbread XOC Moderator |
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JustSayNoToNutbread wrote:Yes I know Lucy's been in the business a long time and is in no doubt well aware that there are dangerous people who gravitate towards those individuals whose lives are in the public eye which is why her decision to allow her children to be videoed in my opinion is a bad one. There are some celebs such as Christian Bale who refuses any access to info reguarding their children because of this threat. There's nothing wrong with being a fan of someone else's accomplishments, especially if it inspires the fan to creative pursuits themselves. Some of the best actors, writers, artists and musicians started off as fans of of someone else's work. However, when fans feel the need to have access to a celebs private life, especially were the particular celeb's children are concerned, that's when I become highly critical of said fandom and I still fail to understand why some fans need this type of access. Maybe it's just me but I don't see Lucy as a saint or god that should be worshipped and I don't see her as a mentor either. To me, she's just an actor. |
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rsine69 wrote: Perhaps Christian Bale isn't the best example to use for the perfect parent figure, especially since shortly after The Dark Knight came out he was accused of beating his wife and kid.
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vanlord52 wrote: The key word here is ACCUSED. He was never convicted and it wasen't for beating his wife and kid. Whatever happened to inocent until proven guilty? |
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xenawp7706 |
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Anyway I understand your point, but I think is Lucy's business if she wants or not to give fans certain informations.
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rsine69 |
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xenawp7706 wrote:True but even when a celeb says it's ok to view their children or other aspects of their personal live, I still refuse to cross a line I see as invading their privacy. I'm an intensely private person myself so I tend to respect the privacy of others even when they say it's ok. What a crappy paparazzi I'd make. I also want to point out in my opinion that paparazzis are the scum of the earth. I often wonder how anyone with a conscious can shove a camera in someone's face and start snapping pics when all they're doing is trying to go about their daily lives even if they are famous. This is another reason why I strongly disagree with posting the link because it seems to condone the actions of the paps just as buying one of those trashy supermarket celeb tabloids does.
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xJuicyFlawless1889x |
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Lucy's been a mom for quite a while now, I'm sure she can tell if her children are in danger or not, and I'm sure she would never give too much
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vanlord52 |
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If famous people didn't like getting the attention they wouldn't be in the work they are in.
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Xenasgrrl |
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I think people shouldn't worry so much about fans and celebrities and their children, and focus more on themselves. There are scary people everywhere.
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you."
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xJuicyFlawless1889x wrote: Never underestimate the resourcefulness of a lot of these celeb stalking nut jobs. As people have been pointing out, Lucy's been in the business for a long time so she should know better. She still can't be that naive. The thing I don't understand about fandom is the need for fans to know every aspect of a celeb's private life. I mean do they (the fans) really need to see photos of the the actor's children? Is it really that important? |
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Xenasgrrl wrote:Yup scary people everywere. But some of them feel that if they kill someone famous, they will also become famous and the fact that fans want to know way too much about a celeb's private life. Far more then they should be allowed. If you look at history, every celeb that was murdered by one of these nut jobs was murdered because the killer wanted to become famous for killing a famous personality. I agree people should focus on themselves instead of the private lives of the famous which was one of the points I've been trying to make. |
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vanlord52 wrote:True but I think many of them don't realize that there's a very dark side to fame. You no longer have any privacy and you and your family can be the targets of some deranged fan that wants to do you harm so they themselves can become famous. |
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xJuicyFlawless1889x |
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rsine69 wrote:Of course not. It's not important at all. I admire Lucy for the work she does, both with her charity and her career. Seeing her children is unimportant to me. I don't understand why you are making such a big deal about this though. I know you have your opinion on the matter, and you are totally allowed to think whatever you like about it, but criticizing Lucy and calling her naive because she let her son talk about his gingerbread house is going a bit far don't you think? We all know that there are lunatics and nutjobs out there, but this camera guy did not pose any threat to Lucy or her son, and he left them alone afterwards. You're making it seem like this guy stalked them right out of the airport and back to their home. As for fans needing to know EVERYTHING about a celebs life, I think that is totally untrue. I don't need to know every single detail about Lucy's personal life, nor do I care to, and I'm sure there are other people that feel the same way about it. The fact that Lucy is, in fact, a celebrity must be taken into account as well, she lives in a fishbowl and she knows it, it doesn't make her any less human. I'm sure a lot of Lucy's fans respect her right to privacy. I don't know. To me, it seems like you are making a mountain out of an anthill.
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