LadyKate63 wrote:Well, I think TDHD works where it is placed now in terms of Gabrielle's character, yeah. All they had to do was remove the bit at the beginning of The Deliverer where Ares is talking about a new metal, and add the bit about Xena being angry with Ares over the whole Furies business into TDHD and then everything would have worked out fine. They probably made the order of the eps as a last minute decision, though, and didn't have time to change it but TDHD works much better before the Rift than in the middle of it.
About why the order of the episodes was changed: apparently for no other reason than that they wanted an "important" episode as Episode 50 (The Deliverer) and they felt that TDHD was too insignificant for that big number.
I do wonder where TDHD was originally supposed to be. Clearly not right after The Deliverer (since that's followed immediately by Gabrielle's Hope). My guess would be, either after GH or after The Debt II -- which would put it smack dab in the middle of the Rift, and would put Gabrielle's anxiety about how much she's been changed by her life with Xena in a very different and much more disturbing light.
TDHD could have also taken place a few episodes later, like in between King of Assassins and Warrior...Priestess...Tramp. That would have worked, especially to break up those two comedies.






Xena comforting Gabrielle is so reflective of
the bond that they have. I really do love the hurt/comfort scenes. She holds Gabrielle close, stroking her hair. It's so protective. I just can't help
feeling sad for what Gabrielle is going through, how she believes she's being punished for killing someone. She's not the first to have ever killed but
she reveres life so much, so deeply, that this has really cut her soul. It agonizes Xena to watch Gabrielle like this, too. For the first time, she can't
help Gabrielle; all she can do is offer comfort.
Gabrielle's completely horrified and
shocked by the thought of carrying a child, given all she's been through already. Her terrified and stunned look as these Banshees tend to her and protect
her.... Poor Gabrielle.
Does Gabrielle really believe that she was
going to be the savior of the world and stop all the violence? Where did that come from? She's never spoken about this before now (except in
Callisto when she mentions that hatred can only stop through love) but when did Gabrielle think she was going to be the poster girl of goodness, that
it was all going to rest on her shoulders?
Yet after the horror and trauma that Gabrielle
goes through, she does a complete 180 and wants to save the child. Okay, I understand that she's having that sudden motherly instinct upon seeing the child
in her arms. But this baby is still completely unnatural. And it's worrisome, which Xena believes herself.
Just as Xena is being blind and naive to the
possibility that it might not have been evil.
Her harsh treatment of Gabrielle when she
thinks that the "baby" is in the cave shows a lot about Xena's character. In her times of darkness and focus, when lives are on the line, or in
this case the fate of the world, she loses her compassion and must go in for the kill. The way she throws Gabrielle aside--and then the hurt look on
Gabrielle's face when Xena realizes Gabrielle is telling the truth that she really did throw her daughter over the cliff--cuts deep.
But I can't feel for Gabrielle too much
because she at this point has now committed the first real crime against their friendship--she's lied to Xena about saving the baby. She believes that
she's right and lets the baby live, floating down a stream.
Borias is an interesting character. The
father of Solan now revealed, he's rough and tough and all around not that much of a nice guy. He even doesn't treat Xena all that well (then again,
she doesn't either 'cause she's evil and all but still...) He does have a different code than Xena, though, and would rather try and make peace
with the two kingdoms of Chin than wage war on them both. Better for profit and all that.
Until Lao Ma, comes along, that is.
The human hunt is drastic and I'm
shocked to find that Ming Tsu thinks it's "fun" to chase this crippled woman through the forest as if she were an animal. True, she's done
horrible and blackmailing things (taking the son of the emperor, Ming Tien, for one--and as a little boy he sure does not display any kind of fear toward this
feral woman warrior) but I don't think that deserves being chased by a pack of dogs to death.
Xena's affected by it, and her
thoughtful look while Lao Ma slowly brushes her wet hair, pampering her and cleaning her up (I'm sure Xena hasn't had that much attention and care in a
long time) says to me that she is unsure about Lao Ma helping her, perhaps as if she doesn't deserve it. But she lets it happen anyway.
The parting scene between Xena and Gabrielle
is beautiful and tragic, Gabrielle's sadness to see Xena leave and Xena's determination to do whatever it takes to keep Lao Ma's wish. Even at the
expense of Gabrielle's feelings which I get are complicated in regards to this situation. Is Gabrielle disappointed in the choice that Xena has made? Or is
she disappointed in the choice Xena has made because she's doing it for someone else?
There is something very different about
Xena's ways of killing this man. She's never gone for pure murder before but when she paints herself in mud so that she can stealthily sneak into the
palace to murder Ming Tien in his sleep, it is the darkest thing we've seen from Xena since her change to good. No morals, just duty.




And all this time, she's never realized
he is a heartless monster. The revelation of that is disheartening, when she talks with him about Xena, and he says that she can never change, that murder is
more natural to her than love--and that he does not resent the things that Xena taught to him when he had been captured by her; that her evil ways--cold and
controlling--taught him how to rule.
The backdrop that they are standing against
is gorgeous, though. The set is fantastic. The scene of them standing against the glow of the sun in the background makes the scene look just like a painting.
Gabrielle's smack to Xena's face....
I get that Gabrielle's frustrated with Xena, that she won't tell Ming Tien that she's sorry so she can be set free. She's too proud for that,
and extremely hurt by what she views as a betrayal by Gabrielle.
The drama of it all makes their
reconciliation in the dungeon all the more special and is definitely the most tear-worthy scene in the series so far. So much raw emotion, so much pain, so
many open wounds. Gabrielle's sorry for what she did, and all Xena can do is ask for one moment of kindness that breaks the walls between them: asking
Gabrielle to scratch her nose. Who would have thought something so simple would have turned into something so intimate and so full of emotion and forgiveness.
Just the act of it all means the world to them both. And they're back together, because of it.
I wonder about the final gift that Ming Tien
gives her, from Lao Ma. He's a heartless monster, knowing full well that Lao Ma was his mother when he had her executed--when he killed her himself. And
the hair pin was the last thing she'd said to give to Xena. Why Ming Tien kept it all those years, I don't know--maybe there was something of honor in
him to keep a promise after all. But the look Xena gets in her eyes when she stares at the hairpin isn't expected. So many emotions: hate, surprise,
resolution.
With everyone saved, Gabrielle comes to
Xena and they plan on keeping Lao Ma's book as a memory. I think Gabrielle is relieved that Ming Tien wasn't killed and they exchange the first real
"I love yous" between them which is nice to hear, especially after what they've gone through. They've come a long way in their relationship
and their friendship.
Ted is hilarious as Jett! Although, even
when he's trying to act "evil" it's so hard to take him seriously. He still looks so much like Joxer, and I don't mean because
they're played by the same person. His mannerisms and expressions are still very Joxer-ish and it is hard to take him seriously as a villain. But then, I
guess as an assassin, he's meant to get in and out, and use his cunning--not his looks--to get the jobs done. That's really the only way it works for
him, and how he's not totally laughable as a killer.
And Joxer had expectations to become like his
brother in order to fit in, which is something of a reflection of when he first appeared in Callisto. Yet he's no good and being a killer or even
trying to be one. He doesn't have the heart, or the brains. He's meant to for better things. I like that he's become such good friends with Xena
and Gabrielle--a place where he can finally belong and "be himself".
The scene when she throws the plate at the
bars like it's a chakram is very funny, but come on, does Gabrielle really believe that it was going to work just like the chakram would? I think the fact
that Gabrielle thought so is just a bit sad, and a bit degrading to her character. I just wouldn't think of her as being that dumb.
Autolycus' suave nature really wins her
over (he's so good at sweet-talking) and their following "bath" scene is so ripe with innuendo you could cut it with a knife. I swear, almost
everything they say, every pun, can be taken as something sexual, and it's so fun to watch them act completely serious about it like they are really
conducting a business meeting. I think Cleo is taken with him from the first moment, though, which is why she's not all that interested in throwing him out
or not believing his offers to protect her. That and the fact that she takes his word that he's working for Xena--she must have a lot of respect for the
Warrior Princess.
Some very enlightening moments for Joxer and
Jett. Even though they're adults, when they meet once more they bring back that childish behavior, including Jett getting Joxer a wet willy and hanging him
by a hook by his underwear (which so conveniently--to all slap-stick comedies out there--has little smiley faces on it). This is exactly why I can't take
Jett as a complete killer even if he has done horrible things in his past and enjoyed them. He's so completely not evil when he's around his brother.

This is my favorite of the 3
look-a-like episodes. Lucy as Leah as a Hestian Priestess, who has a lisp and pronounces all her "r"s as "w"s is so incredibly funny! And
she's got such character and enthusiasm, her innocent nature such a contrast to Xena. And her talk of virginity and all that is great, too. This episode is
really ripe with a lot of naughtiness under the surface, and it's a lot of fun.
Takes Gabrielle a few tries
to figure out who this "Xena" is. Her first thought is that it's Callisto in Xena's body again? What the...? I mean, if Callisto was in
there, why would she be trying to let herself burn at the stake?
Her expressions are purely
hysterical and how she has to praise Hestia at any given moment, for everything she does... She's truly devoted to the goddess (blindly devoted--one of the
things she learns to understand here) and so very, very different from both Xena and Gabrielle who follow their own paths and not that of what any god might
tell them.
Rather funny when Xena and
Gabrielle enter into the Hestian temple and one of the men there stops Gabrielle on spot because she's "not a virgin".(how exactly does he tell?)
She's so funny acting
like Leah, though. Her chugging at the sacred wine, lounging on the bed while picking her toes.... If there's any thought of her being classy, it's out
the window. She's a hoot, though, and she means well she's just rather misguided.
Some of his scenes are
hilarious, especially when he mistakes Leah for Meg and think he's defiled a virgin priestess.
And Gabrielle's line is
interesting but can we take it seriously? Does she mean it in the "literal" sense (or the sense where all our minds go to when we think of it because
they're all in the gutter?) I don't know. I would like to think Gabrielle isn't that crass but it is one of the subtext moments that can perhaps
lead to her and Xena being in a relationship beyond friendship. I don't see it a lot, really, and their connection can still go either way. I think
it's a fun line, though.
And so who does she make the hero? Herself
of course. Writing about her abilities to defeat the bad guys in battle, with the skill and ability that Xena has. It's a very telling moment that she
wants to be just like Xena, or wishes that she were.
So Ares wanted to get Aphrodite to distract
Gabrielle just so he could have his army attack some village and not have Xena interfering. Perfect example of what the God of War does best. I love that he
threatens his general to attack the village because Ares is sure that Xena will not turn up, yet his general is more scared of Xena than he is of what Ares
might do if he doesn't attack the village. Kinda sets the God of War down a notch or two, yeah? Not as scary as he thinks he is if his men are more afraid
of facing Xena than they are of facing an angry God of War!
His "what have you done to
me?" as he tries to use his powers is just too fun, and then things get even more messed up when Gabrielle writes that the power that enchanted the
scroll loses its power and Aphrodite comes falling out of the sky, tumbling down on top of Ares.
Oh well, the resulting Three Naked
Gabrielle's are simply priceless! Such classic campyness for this show! Including the gogo song in the background--that's just not ancient Greek at
all.
I think being mortal is hardest on
Aphrodite. She just looks so distraught when she realizes she can't be as beautiful (or doesn't know how to be as beautiful) as when she was a goddess.
She's lost and helpless with it all, and I think they made her look dirtier than normal to prove a point of how different she is from her godly state (in
reality, there's no way she'd get that dirty in only a day).
Some very interesting moments between Ares
and Gabrielle in this episode. They spark my interest and make me kind of like the possibility of a pairing between them.
Ah, the fish fight. Boy, does Xena come back
with a lot of fish! I hope she ends up selling them in town or something--there's no way she and Gabrielle and Joxer would be able to eat all of that!

The way she greets him is so representative of
a way a mother could greet a son after a long time apart but coming from Xena it's particularly adorable probably because you think of her as this tough
warrior and when she shows those moments of caring and silliness you realize she's not as hard all the way through as she sometimes appears. That she can
open up to him, tease him is sweet.
From the very start, that girl Phayla is
trouble. She looks like a rather rag-tag young girl. Her hair is the rattiest little nest of hair I've ever seen--the costume department must have had fun
teasing it to make it look so messy.
I don't think this child could ever be
good. She's Dahak's alone and always will be. Maybe Gabrielle's influence could have changed her but given how fast it took her to grow up, how
hateful she became in only a few months, at least, and that whether or not she had "parents" to take care of her, I think she's pretty much a
goner in terms her ability to be good right from the very beginning.
Once Kaliapus is killed by Hope, I think
there's so much raw emotion between Solan and Xena, and Solan feels such a desperate need to be with her. He feels a pull between them. It's that
instinct, I think--unspoken--that just draws him to her as if you can tell without speaking that she's his mother. His pleading to let her take him along
with her on the road because she's the only one that he wants to be with just tears me up inside. It's so sad and he's so vulnerable. Even Xena has
a hard time saying no to him and eventually agrees to take him along.
It's much more than Gabrielle being naive
at this point. I think she mainly just doesn't want to believe the worst.
I'm so sorry that it does hurt them in a
way that is so tragic and heart-wrenching.
Does Gabrielle really want to kill herself?
I'm glad she finally realizes what Hope is and, though it's a bit late, it's good that she kills her. It tears Gabrielle up inside, though, so much
so that momentarily she intends on taking her own life as well. The horror of what has happened with Solan and everything has brought her suicidal thoughts
and, for Gabrielle, that's very unnerving to watch. She's not one to give up--in some ways, she's stronger like that than Xena is. But the guilt of
all that she has caused, Solan's death and the possible forever breakup between her and Xena has driven her to this point. Until the final moment when she
stops herself and figures it isn't worth it.
The final scene is another tear-worthy moment.
Xena and Gabrielle truly are on opposite sides now. Watching their children burn in the funeral fires, all Gabrielle wants is Xena's forgiveness, wants to
talk and work out their problems and say she's sorry. But Xena can't accept it. Can't give to Gabrielle what Gabrielle needs most: forgiveness. I
think that's where the turning point happens for both of them, and why it makes it so hard to watch.
Here they are, the two of them, whom have lost
a lot and when there was a problem they always used to come out on top of it, together. But together is the one place that they cannot find comfort in any
longer. Xena doesn't even want to speak to Gabrielle anymore. Gabrielle inadvertently caused the death of her son--her betrayal of Xena by the lie she told
cost Solan's life-- and I think that's one thing that will not easily be forgotten. All Gabrielle can do is walk away.



