I suppose I should clarify... the series in general. My bad.

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I suppose I should clarify... the series in general. My bad.
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-Her tendency to physically bully anyone who had qualms about her plans (Virgil in 'Who's Gurkhan?', Autolycus in 'Royal Couple of
Thieves')
-She didn't realize that playing the part of a slave girl meant acting like a slave (same episodes) -Keeping Gabrielle in the dark about her past until it was too late. Perfectly understandable in the early seasons. Absolutely ridiculous in the later seasons. -The way she shielded Eve from punishment. Her daughter may have killed thousands and enslaved others, but since she's related to Xena . . . well, that makes things different. . . . that's all I have for now
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in no particular order...
1. Dahak arc (except for the Debt episodes - loved 'em) 2. Callisto being buried under a rockslide...again?!? 3. Keys to the Kingdom 4. lame lame lame justification for Xena staying dead in FIN - should have been Akemi's soul that took responsibility somehow 5. adult Eve - sorry folks, I never liked her as "Eve"...too whiny and just kind of a boring character. Livia was much more interesting. 6. there is no #6 7. not enough Kevin Smith with his shirt off 8. inconsistency throughout the Amazons' lore - and where was Artemis all this time? 9. Ulysses! that's all I can think of atm...may come back and add
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Ah hah. Well then . . .
04.) Whenever we saw the Amazons they were usually in danger. Weren't they supposed to be great warriors? 03.) Some of the special effects are just bad. I'm not just talking about the early stuff; those flying carpet effects in 'The Way' were awful.
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1) Akemi (Because of FIN) 2) Xena dieing (FIN) 3) The twenty five year leap 4) The death of Gabrielle and Xena's parents 5) Joxers Death. 6) Ares trying to force Xena to have a child with him. (Felt that was out of character) 7) Gabchak (Motherhood) 8) Gabrielle being dragged across the yard like a rack of meat. (Motherhood) 9) Death Of the gods 10) Lack of subtext in season 5.
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1) FIN not just because Xena died but because it portrayed Gabrielle as an Akemi clone, and lessened the last 6 (or however many) years.
2) 25 year leap. never felt the same way about Xenaverse again. 3) Eve-why? 4) Twlight of the Gods. no real interest in most of the Gods. No real interest in twlight 5) Xena was always right. I won't punish you despite the genocide because you are my ex lovers son. and I'm right. 6) The mix of after lifes. 7) Lifeblood. Just awful 8)Gabby's peacenik phase. 9) Callisto being buried under a pile of rocks, again 10) Another Xena flashback, yawn.
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1. Making Xena's fire blowing the instrument of her ultimate doom. (AFIN) It's one of my favorite things about her, and I really didn't want it
tainted.
2. Messing up the Elysian Fields mythology with the Solan storyline in GFC. Sorry guys, four previous seasons outweigh one ep. What exactly were you smoking when you brainstormed that one? 3. Gabrielle's reaction in "Livia" when Xena talks about having her child ripped away. Sure, they can still save her soul now, and that's a good thing that should be focused on, but her childhood is still gone, 48 hours ago (in her mind) Xena was still breastfeeding and sleeping with a baby breathing on her chest, and that deserves some serious mourning and serious comfort, not a perky little pep talk. 4. Xena as the ugly stepsister in ItSF 5. The portrayal of Xena fans/Con goers in the "uber-eps" (especially SItC and SP) 6. The pro-wrestling. Anyone got eyeball bleach I could borrow? 7. Gabrielle's really short/grandmother style hair in S4. By S6 I love it. 8. Making Gabrielle try to run from things barefoot in a tight fitted skirt (India arc). That's just cruel. 9. Hope's birth scene. 10. Xena disguised as a man (MHR) I think it says a hell of a lot about this show, though, that I had to think a good while to come up with ten. I don't think my previous fandoms would have made me think quite so hard...
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And now the least favorite.
1. Too much SuperXena, especially in the later seasons. (Both in the sense of Xena being "always right" and of over-the-top physical feats.) 2. Too many deaths and resurrections. (Anything more than one death/resurrection per show is one too many.) 3. Alti. 4. Too much sexploitation in S6 (and occasionally S5), including too much Xena: Warrior Vamp. Also, too much over-the-top violence in S6, particularly sexualized violence (in Who's Gurkhan and When Fates Collide). (I'm lumping these two into one.) 5. Soul Possession and Last of the Centaurs -- listing these two as one because they both have certain things in common: bad taste and character assassination. 6. The finale. Not necessarily the fact that Xena died but the lame, contrived reason for her staying dead, the foreign setting, the introduction of new characters we didn't know and didn't care about. 7. A tendency to mistreat (and sometimes butcher, as with Najara) interesting secondary characters and waste their potential. Eve and Virgil in Season 6 are the most prominent example. 8. The reincarnation/karma theme. To me it just didn't belong on the show, and none of Xena and Gabrielle's reincarnations (particularly Harry and Mattie) were very impressive. 9. "The Way" -- both the episode and the concept. 10. The "X & G, soulmates forever" theme in S6 sometimes felt a bit heavy-handed. I love Xena and Gab's relationship, but I didn't like the fact that they started to make it into some mystical, space-and-time transcending bond that was "meant to be" -- it's much more interesting to me if it exists on a purely human level. Runners-up: the Ch'in and Amazon episodes of S5; the stupidity of the gods during the Twilight arc; the signs of creative fatigue during S6; too many winks and nods to the fandom (in The Play's the Thing, You Are There, Send in the Clones and Soul Possession).
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1.Season 5 (except Fallen Angel and some of TBTB). Do I need to be more specific? Lack of focus on Xena and Gabrielle's relationship. Eve/Hope
comparrisons. Kindred Spirits. Eternal Bonds. Purity. BITB. Charkram. AUS. I could go on.
2.The Amazons. I like some, I like Amarice for example, but in general they were kind of... pathetic. Too much dancing and not enough efficient fighting. 3.Autolycus irritates me. 4.Warrior, Priestess, Tramp 5.A Tale Of Two Muses 6.The way Xena forgives Eve in Coming Home. I can only think of six (probably because I included loads in 1.
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1) Joxer's death
2) Xena dieing in the finale 3) The twenty five year leap 4) The death of Gabrielle and Xena's parents 5) Overdone subtext in season 6 7) Eve and Virgil's character development 8) Gabriel's short hair 9) Najara's character destruction in The Convert 10) Lackluster payoff for the Norse Trilogy banner/avatar by dallhaz |
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1) 25 years lost... We could have at least 5 more seasons just for that time Can't stand sarcasm - stay away from forums. |
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1) The 25 year leap
7) No Ares in the season finale 8) Xena died too many times, i mean, even Buffy only died twice NO
XENA, NO XENAVERSE!
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1. 25 year gap
2. Twilight of the Gods/the many ways to kill Gods 3. Xena becoming pregnant/Eve-storyline 4. Ulysses and Rafe 5. Joxer's death 6. The death of the Amazons and Centaurs 7. Brunnhilde and Beowulf being in love with Gabrielle with no explanation 8. The Lucifer-storyline 9. Everything about Xena's death and Akemi and, well what everyone's said. 10. The S6 changing of the intro
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Hmm, never thought about it before but here's what comes quickly to mind in no particular order:
-The India arc. Pacifist Gabrielle was her only incarnation that I didn't care like. -The justification for why Xena had to remain dead in AFIN. Despise the idea that the fate of a soul is in anyway tied to the person at whose hand he/she was killed. -Most of the music in Season 1. It got so much better after that. -The wrestling scene in Kindred Spirits - easily the most cringeworthy scene of the entire series for me. -The ghastly and horrifying death of Cyrene especially since it was in service of what I thought was a terrible episode. -The complete and utter lack of recognition of any of the other people important to Xena during AFIN. Would have loved a true "life flashing before your eyes moment" during her final moments that in addition to Gabrielle also had quick shots of Eve, Solan, Cyrene, Joxer, Ares, Borias. -The horrible characterizations of Borias and Ares in Last of the Centaurs and Soul Possession. -Speaking of Soul Possession, an awful episode that among its huge faults puts into question the events of Sacrifice I/II and A Family Affair so I exclude it from my personal canon. -Purity/Back in the Bottle: don't think I've watched them more than twice. The Debt I/II are so wonderful. They should have let Lao Ma rest in peace instead of revisiting Chin with these two turkeys. -The stupidity of the Gods in the Twilight Arc. I did like that storyline but it just isn't believable that the Gods couldn't hurt Xena or get to Eve.
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1. FIN--not Xena's death, but how and why
2. Eve 3. Passive non-fighting Gabrielle. 4. The Xena rap in Lyre Lyre (I love the rest of this ep!) 5. Callisto buried in rocks--way too often. 6. Gabrielle's dubbed voice in Bittersuite. 7. too much Meg--a couple of Meg episodes would have been plenty imo 8. Xena expecting Gabrielle to kill Hope 9. Old Joxer/ dead Joxer...just sad 10. FIN Did I mention that already?????
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Eli & the Indian arc
S3 rift resolution S6 Eve Sexed up Alti in WFC & the episode in general Overkill of subtext in S6 Wiping out the Amazons and Centaurs Repetitive Alti plots Autolycus, only liked 1 or 2 episodes with him Xena just excepting Eve as good but expected Gabrielle to kill Hope Reincarnation future episodes
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Hmmmmmmm.
1. Super-Xena - By the end of the series, I really didn't have the impression Xena could ever be defeated in battle (unless she wanted to be, as in FIN). 2. The 25 year leap - If the over-all storyline for season 5 had been stronger, then it could have been a cool way to age Eve, but it just didn't work "as is". 3. Inconsistencies - Particularly in respect of Gabrielle's warrior abilities and character interactions. 4. Missed Opportunities - The "Twilight" arc could have been a lot stronger, Callisto's sister could have been introduced, Velasca could have returned, Pax Romana, etc. 5. Friend In Need - I have no issues with Xena dying, but the "how" and the "why" didn't work for me. 6. Gabrielle's Development - I would have liked a bit more consistency in respect of fighting skills, bardic abilities, etc. 7. Sex and Violence - Started to get a little OTT in season 5 (Antony and Cleopatra) and definitely went there in season 6 (HOD, TGYK, etc). 8. Soul Possession, LOTC and SITC - WTF? Were TPTB suffering burn-out? How did these episodes get made instead of "Fallen", "Sticks and Stones" and other episodes? 9. Eve - Amazon Princess anyone? Even as the "Messenger of Eli" any daughter of Xena and Callisto should have been a lot more interesting. 10. Season 6 Story-Arc - Even if it had been the "death of the mythological world" leading to Xena's death in the finale, the final season deserved something "important". Cheers. |
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1. My number one would have to be the way tptb "missed the boat" with mortal Ares in season 6. They could have done so much with him and chose not
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2. Solan's death 3. The 25 year leap and the fact that it got rid of loved characters. 4. Hope/Dahak 5. The fact that Xena didnt even mention her other friends, family, loved ones when she was getting ready to die. SHe didnt even have any last words for Eve...ridiculous and out of character. 6. The Ring Trilogy. 7. Speaking of the ring trilogy, the overdone subtext in season 6. 8. The delving into Christianity. 9. The reincarnation stuff. 10. The assisted suicide of Caligula. That one left me feeling dirty just watchin it. |
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Oh my, I just realized that what I said is my number one isnt my number one. Gabrielle's peace quest in season 4 is.
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1. 25-year jump.
2. The India arc, and Gabrielle's peace quest. It was exactly what I feared they would do with Gabby's character, and not a direction I particularly cared to see her take. 3. Along the same lines, the fabric episodes. They were lovely as pieces of original film, but not (to me) episodes of Xena. 4. "Xena always right, Gabrielle always wrong." 5. Along the same lines, the way Gabrielle's competency levels fluctuated wildly depending on what the plot requirements of the week were. 6. Gabrielle's 5th and 6th-season hair. It looked like it couldn't decide whether to be short or long, and just looked bad to me. 7. Caesar's last appearance, and the last chance to dig into his character, being wasted in WFC. 8. Najara. Potentially very fascinating character, wasted in TC. 9. Increasing levels of over-the-top, leering sexuality and violence as the series progressed. 10. Did I mention the 25-year jump yet? :P
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1) Xena wanting to murder Hope and expecting Gabrielle to let her/help her.
2) The Gabchak. 3) Gabrielle being willing to let Xena rot in Hell 4) The whole deal with Akemi, stoopid brat!! *LOL* 5) Insipid 'Men of the Week'!! ...I'll try and think of another 5
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