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"I am especially fond of our internet troll who, despite being an egomaniacal misogynist,... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (xwpweb) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152565 Sat, 10 Dec 2005 07:20:35 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/reply/152564/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html#reply-152564 Between the Lines. And BTL and The Way back to back... what can I say.




feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152564 Sat, 10 Dec 2005 02:14:38 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/reply/152563/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html#reply-152563

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it's tempting to conclude that the India arc ruined X:WP.

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Sure is!

*is not a fan of the India arc*

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"To think that once I could not see... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Daughter of Tiaran) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152563 Sat, 10 Dec 2005 02:07:25 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/reply/152562/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html#reply-152562

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I haven't a clue what Eick is talking about - I doubt that he's referring to H:TLJ, since that series never generated the controversy that X:WP did.

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Yeah, and I also don't think that there was much of an Internet fandom for H:TLJ.

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I think that if you could point to any single aspect of either... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152562 Sat, 10 Dec 2005 01:52:33 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/reply/152585/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html#reply-152585 The Quest, ANE and ADITL represent extreme outliers in the overall ratings trend for X:WP - remove them, and we see a pretty constant ratings pattern in the mid-5's - mid-6's until the second half of S3. I can't imagine using a drop-off from those eps as evidence of "subtext driving away fans" - if anything, more people tuned into those eps that ever did before feeds@yuku.com (CasualFan) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152585 Sat, 10 Dec 2005 01:15:26 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/reply/152584/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html#reply-152584

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]]> feeds@yuku.com (floacism) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152584 Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:20:35 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/reply/152583/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html#reply-152583

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I heard that too, but it certainly didnt keep him out of the show--or minimize his appearances, did it?

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Nope, because Tapert had a real affinity for Joxer's character as Ted pointed out in a commentary, although I'm sure too sure which one. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (nemesis incognito) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152583 Fri, 09 Dec 2005 19:25:13 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/reply/152582/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html#reply-152582
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]]> feeds@yuku.com (ApollotheArcher) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152582 Fri, 09 Dec 2005 18:55:37 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/reply/152581/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html#reply-152581

feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152581 Fri, 09 Dec 2005 18:35:09 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/reply/152580/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html#reply-152580
I wonder what things they thought we'd love but didnt??

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]]> feeds@yuku.com (ApollotheArcher) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152580 Fri, 09 Dec 2005 18:32:34 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/reply/152579/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html#reply-152579 he had any idea what he was talking about...

feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152579 Fri, 09 Dec 2005 15:15:34 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/reply/152578/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html#reply-152578
Or if he's only vaguely remembering something from 8 years ago.

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See, I wasn't even aware that Internet fan reaction was much of a factor for H:TLJ. Was there even a whole lot of Internet discussion of the show?

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There's a pretty big Herc community online still, although it's sort of... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (joxerfan) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152578 Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:55:11 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/reply/152577/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html#reply-152577
I think that it counters a contention that the introduction of open "subtext", characterized by The Quest, was what began the downward Nielsen spiral.

No, I don't know precisely what Eick is referring to, or even whether or not he's blowing typically self-serving PTB smoke on behalf of his former (and perhaps future) associate.

I do... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Batrochides) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152577 Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:41:44 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/reply/152576/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html#reply-152576 The Furies, then dipped slightly to 5.6 and 5.0 for BTDT and TDHD, then rose back above 6 for the Rift Arc The Deliverer, Gabrielle's Hope, The Debt I&II). The 3 comedies (KOA,W.P.T and TQIM) also all pulled numbers well above 6. MI got a 6.1, TBS, OAAA and feeds@yuku.com (CasualFan) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152576 Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:06:30 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/reply/152575/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html#reply-152575
I don't think one can really argue that The Quest (which certainly brougth the subtext to the fore) caused the ratings to slide. Looking at the ratings, it's clear that a lot of people tuned in to see The Quest, both to see... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152575 Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:05:54 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/reply/152574/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html#reply-152574 feeds@yuku.com (joxerfan) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152574 Thu, 08 Dec 2005 20:05:34 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/reply/152573/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html#reply-152573 The Quest was the highest rated episode and it was the first one I saw! Clearly it gets people hooked and remembering the show.

]]> feeds@yuku.com (Unregistered(d)) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/152573 Thu, 08 Dec 2005 19:00:23 GMT http://xena.yuku.com/topic/7999/t/Producers-quot-Overcorrecting-and-Marginalizing-quot-show.html
"And...a fascinating comment from Rob Tapert's former protege, David Eick, now Exec. Producer of "Battlestar Galactica," from SciFi Wire feeds@yuku.com (Nittany Lioness 1) http://xena.yuku.com/topic/7999 Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:02:19 GMT