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Pandora10 said:

Also I wonder to what extent Najara recognised that what she was doing by "sending people to the light" was wrong, or at least would be seen as wrong by a lot of people even she herself was convinced it was right, since she didn't exactly reveal it to Gabrielle very quickly, nor tell the villagers who were so grateful to her that part of her practices involved killing those who didn't commit to her... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/381966 Sun, 25 May 2008 22:13:28 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/380961/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-380961
I noticed that Najara evinced some small, but visible frustration when Xena firmly contradicted her plans to go after Marat. I bet in that moment she regretted handing over her army as a trust... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (athenasword) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/380961 Sat, 24 May 2008 11:27:38 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/380947/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-380947 feeds@yuku.com (Pandora10) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/380947 Sat, 24 May 2008 10:59:12 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/380892/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-380892 Najara felt that and she took advantage of her. This is what I think ]]> feeds@yuku.com (xenawp7706) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/380892 Sat, 24 May 2008 07:11:56 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/380781/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-380781 Crusader, at least, was that Najara senses special spiritual qualities in Gabrielle (just like Aidan does) and is therefore especially anxious to bring her into the fold. However, I have to say that I find athenasword's idea about Najara's craving -- not (necessarily) sexual -- for female company quite intriguing, as well as the Xena parallel.

EpTalk, thanks for... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/380781 Sat, 24 May 2008 00:48:18 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/380759/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-380759 feeds@yuku.com (Zaudeen) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/380759 Fri, 23 May 2008 23:26:11 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/380683/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-380683 feeds@yuku.com (Daughter of Tiaran) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/380683 Fri, 23 May 2008 19:51:53 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/380575/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-380575 feeds@yuku.com (athenasword) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/380575 Fri, 23 May 2008 15:41:56 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/380314/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-380314 LadyKate writes:
EpTalk, the trouble I'm having here is that you seem to be simultaneously saying that Najara is deliberately lying when she says her information about certain things comes from the Djinn, and that she really does hear "voices in her head," believes the Djinn to be real, and obeys their commands with insane zeal.
Sorry if it seemed I was saying Najara was "lying" -I'm not saying that. I do say she was... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (TheEpTalk) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/380314 Fri, 23 May 2008 01:16:10 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/380280/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-380280 ]]> feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/380280 Thu, 22 May 2008 22:19:51 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/380163/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-380163
The killer twist is that Xena and Gab would be condoning Najara's return to her old ways. She isn't killing innocent... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (athenasword) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/380163 Thu, 22 May 2008 14:48:14 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/380159/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-380159 feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/380159 Thu, 22 May 2008 14:35:55 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/380150/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-380150 do offer offense to Chris Manheim for this; it was the bastardization of the character's mystery that led her to such an abrupt end as unworthy as the threadlike endings of Mavican dangling in the other universe or Satrina "probably" surviving the cave-in. I'm not overshadowing all of her work because of this; she's made some excellent episodes. But no other secondary... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (athenasword) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/380150 Thu, 22 May 2008 14:20:27 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/380143/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-380143 "Tell me you heard them! Don't say you didn't! The Djinn get mad when you say that!"

Oh, yeah. One of the worst lines ever in the 6 years of the show. (No offense to Chris Manheim, who is a wonderful writer.)

I do think the scene was clearly meant to show Najara as "nuts." Not just that line and the voices whispering in the air, but also the way she listens to those voices with a kind of vacant open-mouthed look... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/380143 Thu, 22 May 2008 13:59:09 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/380110/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-380110
I didn't like how they added audible... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (athenasword) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/380110 Thu, 22 May 2008 12:34:43 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/380079/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-380079 (Although if I was looking for a way to explain how Najara could know the things she said about Xena and Gabrielle the first time she met them, I'd have thought it was easier to... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Pandora10) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/380079 Tue, 18 Nov 1975 15:11:47 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/379993/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-379993 feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/379993 Thu, 22 May 2008 04:23:17 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/379960/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-379960
Najara as a cold reader doesn't work for me. How could you generalize "seeing your own death?" Further, Najara was the first person to mention the word "vision," while externally, Xena was just standing there looking pensive as she... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (athenasword) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/379960 Thu, 22 May 2008 01:44:52 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/379953/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-379953 How did she know about Gabrielle and Xena's past just by looking at them?
I believe Najara was skillful like a fortune teller who reads people, facial expressions, body language, appearance-the whole shebang. Then she cleverly makes general statements followed by questions prompting responses that feed her more information. Fortune tellers do the same thing making you think they know things they don't really know but can sound precise and accurate.... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (TheEpTalk) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/379953 Thu, 22 May 2008 01:16:24 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/reply/379944/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html#reply-379944 feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) http://xena.yuku.com/sreply/379944 Thu, 22 May 2008 00:56:42 GMT <![CDATA[ Najara's Light: Good for Gab? ]]> http://xena.yuku.com/topic/18034/t/Najara-s-Light-Good-for-Gab-.html
The problems that the girls had with her were her ethics of handling baddies. But the Light itself doesn't sound so bad. Gab seemed genuinely happy believing in it, surrounded by friends, and I don't see how she couldn't stay with Xena and be a fighter doing what she usually did, with the staff to ensure she killed as little as possible. She... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (athenasword) http://xena.yuku.com/topic/18034 Mon, 19 May 2008 23:52:50 GMT