"Some People Are Better Lovers Than Others..." (Beg Your Pardon?)

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feeds@yuku.com (wingstwospirit) — Sat, 17 May 2008 13:59:56 GMT

Does anyone have that clip uploaded online? I've been dying to study it, but I still have 2 more weeks before I'm reunited with my dvds.

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feeds@yuku.com (faith102) — Sat, 17 May 2008 12:41:20 GMT

good point gravitystar i liked that bit too were X&G smiled at each other it gave gose bumbs a bit

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feeds@yuku.com (gravitystar) — Sat, 17 May 2008 05:50:35 GMT

You know...I've always loved this scene for this exact reason. There seems to be obvious undertones to their conversations, and they seem to be speaking to each other in a different language to what they're saying to everyone else.

The people part of the statement is, as has been said, a genderless hint that lesbians tend to use, and adore the fact that whilst everyone else is clearly talking about men, Gabielle refer's to a person, not a man. That said I love...

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feeds@yuku.com (tinka182) — Sat, 17 May 2008 04:16:16 GMT

JinxsMinx wrote:
Is it just me or does Xena look a bit overdressed in that towel-thing?

yeah, i reckon!

If you ask me, I think Hercules failed to deliver

lol!

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feeds@yuku.com (Nanziniemi) — Thu, 15 May 2008 11:22:22 GMT

the smirks are def subtexty for me:)

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feeds@yuku.com (JinxsMinx) — Thu, 15 May 2008 10:35:22 GMT

Interesting observation, Jolly.

Remembers something about Eve becoming an amazon princess.... When is that?

*puts 'watch xena' on my to-do list*

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feeds@yuku.com (everhope) — Thu, 15 May 2008 06:43:39 GMT

Yeah the person thing to me affirms the fact that Gabrielle is talking about a female lover...

I love that scene.

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feeds@yuku.com (xenawp7706) — Thu, 15 May 2008 03:22:37 GMT

I remember that scene, but who knows who she was referring to

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feeds@yuku.com (calliopes muse) — Wed, 14 May 2008 21:17:08 GMT

Oh cookies!!! I so luv your posts!

Well, I was always of the mind that they were teasing each other and were having this "inside joke" kind of conversation. Of course, the scene is so ambiguous that it's easy to be interpreted many ways, including an affirmation to the non-subbers that our ladies actually loved boy parts more. However, I point to the genderless pronoun Gabrielle comment as proof to otherwise. This started out a clearly hetero-focused conversation about...

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feeds@yuku.com (AndroBard1364) — Wed, 14 May 2008 19:17:45 GMT

Hmmm... I'm going to have to watch this episode/scene again. Then I will get back to you with my reaction

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feeds@yuku.com (TheJollyApe) — Wed, 14 May 2008 15:49:09 GMT

I had to go watch that scene again, just because. Two things struck me as I did. The first one was that they were all facing Gabrielle. I just found that kinda funny.

Anyhow the second one was this line;
"We need a formal coronation for our new queen."

Said by the eager new sidekick girl (can't remember her name) as she plopped down next to Xena. Who exactly was she referring to with that one? Cause I mean Gabrielle isn't exactly a new...

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feeds@yuku.com (Xenasgrrl) — Wed, 14 May 2008 15:31:56 GMT

lol...definitely overdressed. Then again so is Gab....

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feeds@yuku.com (JinxsMinx) — Wed, 14 May 2008 15:28:31 GMT

Is it just me or does Xena look a bit overdressed in that towel-thing?

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feeds@yuku.com (vampirecookies) — Wed, 14 May 2008 14:49:50 GMT

Gib5 wrote:
I mean if we were just talking about DIALOGUE it would be iffy however, there are many a sexy visual aid here. I mean when Xena says "Forevers a long time" and lil gabby does the chokey chokey, then looks at xena and xena smirks at her...thats DEFINITELY a "yeah i proved that to you over and over and over...etc" look. for reals. then the yes/no, and the looks its like a "thats not what you...

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feeds@yuku.com (Ojima) — Wed, 14 May 2008 12:22:03 GMT

You're post made me lol

Anyways, yea I think there is a lot of subtext here. Most of which has been mentioned above. Obviously they're having a lil fun in the situation. Also about the conflicting styles, either they were directly thinking of experiences with men (because she specifically asked about men) and Xena was surprised because they are always rough, so she's shocked that Gabrielle said gentle, or they...

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feeds@yuku.com (pops29) — Wed, 14 May 2008 11:56:10 GMT

As you said it screams subtext. But let's do it as if x and g were just friends so the dialog would mean:

Perky Amazon: "What makes a man a good lover? Being gentle and kind?"

Xena: "No."

Gabrielle: "Yes." (g and x just give their point of view it's okay)

(They share a look that says, "HUH?")

(here, here, if they were only friends...

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feeds@yuku.com (Xenasgrrl) — Wed, 14 May 2008 11:21:35 GMT

It's a weird scene that on paper means nothing, but because of their chemistry and the way they play it all of a sudden takes on a whole new dimension
which describes a lot of what we pick up on as subtext on Xena, not just words alone. I always thought that WTF moment between them was because Gabrielle was trying to keep things sweet and innocent sounding for her young and inexperienced Amazon sisters, but when Xena blurted out "no" to the gentle and...

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feeds@yuku.com (TheJollyApe) — Wed, 14 May 2008 09:24:54 GMT
(and here I thought I was doing work, but I had to answer this first)

The scene has always been a bit of a WTF with me as well. The only thing I got for certain was further proof for my theory that Gab indeed is a full-blown lesbian. Her gender pronoun avoiding is classic and screams homosexual.

And as stated above all the wink, wink, nudge, nudge stuff really does indicate a backstory for Xena and Gabrielle, of the sexual kind. At the same time it would kinda indicate...

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feeds@yuku.com (DeborahKizzy) — Wed, 14 May 2008 08:51:28 GMT

hahahaha! I am now in love with the words schmexing and porking for some reason.
First let me take the opportunaity to shove more pics in here hehe

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feeds@yuku.com (JinxsMinx) — Wed, 14 May 2008 08:35:57 GMT
VC, your entire post had me grinning. Gods know why exactly, but thanks.

This scene is an interesting one.

One can interpret it in a number of ways. The Yes/No business suggest that Xena likes it a bit more wild than Gabby does. At least that's what their stereotypical answers would be. The WTF can, and I'm not saying that it does, confirm what a great many fanfics have and continue to portray - that it in...

"Some People Are Better Lovers Than Others..." (Beg Your Pardon?)

feeds@yuku.com (vampirecookies) — Tue, 13 May 2008 21:33:08 GMT
Okay, subbers. There's something that's been nagging me for a goodly while now, and I wanna throw it out at you for the benefit of your subblicious wisdom. Well, that, and I wanted an excuse to post this picture of Gabrielle:

You should all (hopefully) be familiar with the Amazon sauna sex chat from the episode Kindred Spirits. Mediocre episode: hot hot...