Repetitive storytelling

Re: Repetitive storytelling

feeds@yuku.com (xenawp7706) — Thu, 15 May 2008 02:42:27 GMT

Me too. I liked that arc

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feeds@yuku.com (natyxg) — Thu, 15 May 2008 02:40:29 GMT

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feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) — Thu, 15 May 2008 00:41:50 GMT

Hey, I liked the Twilight storyline.

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feeds@yuku.com (natyxg) — Thu, 15 May 2008 00:34:09 GMT

Hell, I'd rather see a Xena/Ares custody battle instead of the twilight of the gods and that lame pseudo-Christianity story.

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feeds@yuku.com (toxic64) — Thu, 15 May 2008 00:20:14 GMT

I could see Xena and Ares litterally fighting for custody of the child: Xena wants the child to be a force of good while Ares wants him/her to be a bada$$ warrior for him to mold.

Re: Repetitive storytelling

feeds@yuku.com (RipplesandChurns) — Wed, 14 May 2008 13:32:25 GMT

'Course, it would have been fine with me if Gabs hadn't interrupted Xena and a certain war god in the bath chamber in Chakram and Eve had been Ares' baby.

Haha...I'm sure THAT would have had some repercussions!

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feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) — Wed, 14 May 2008 13:19:12 GMT

Yeah, two unnatural conceptions kind of is one too many, isn't it? though I did like both storylines.

'Course, it would have been fine with me if Gabs hadn't interrupted Xena and a certain war god in the bath chamber in Chakram and Eve had been Ares' baby.

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Re: Repetitive storytelling

feeds@yuku.com (RipplesandChurns) — Wed, 14 May 2008 13:09:44 GMT

Nah, haha I think I mean babies of un-natural conception. I mean 2 is pushing it a bit, eh?

And also, kids turning up all over the shop with Solan aswell.......

Maybe I'm just not a 'child person' lol.

Seriously, a storyline that got repeated waaaay too much was just in general, Xena having done some other terrible deed in her past that she must amend for. I mean, she was one busy lady. It's very hard too actually figure out a time-line when she...

Re: Repetitive storytelling

feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) — Wed, 14 May 2008 12:17:18 GMT

Hmm, Ripples -- do you mean that demon babies was a repetitive storyline on X:WP? (I can only think of one.) Or that it's a repetitive storyline in fantasy in general?

One storyline that I think got kind of repetitive was the Amazons getting killed off into extinction and Xena having to save them. Seriously, it seems like every Amazon storyline on the show with the exception of The Quest had to do...

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feeds@yuku.com (RipplesandChurns) — Tue, 13 May 2008 17:49:31 GMT

Demon Babies!!!!!

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feeds@yuku.com (toxic64) — Tue, 13 May 2008 13:05:11 GMT

In every show there's repetitivness. Buffy had about as much as Xena and it's highly rated show.

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feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) — Tue, 13 May 2008 04:15:01 GMT

I won't.

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feeds@yuku.com (natyxg) — Tue, 13 May 2008 02:59:01 GMT

Do you really think that Ares learned to love unselfishly in S5?

Nope, nope. Not going off topic.

Don't answer that LK.

Re: Repetitive storytelling

feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) — Tue, 13 May 2008 02:49:50 GMT

And now you're gonna say that it wasn't him going after her all the time, that she went to him in AUS for example, and that not all their interactions were like that (he was after Gaby in Succession and after Eli in SOF, completely stumbled on her in PoV, didn't even interact with her in TQIM, etc), aren't ya?

Well actually ... I'm not agreeing on all of that. I think Ares...

Re: Repetitive storytelling

feeds@yuku.com (natyxg) — Tue, 13 May 2008 02:36:15 GMT

Mmm. Well, LK, I'm not gonna say touche, cause I still don't completely agree, but I'll give you a semi touche.

Maybe what bothers me is that, regardless of the reason, he's the one who's always after her. Over. And over. And over again(with some exceptions when she needed his help). And she kept turning him down over. And over. And over again. It got annoying, like, can't you take a hint? S6 was different because he's mortal and its more interesting to...

Re: Repetitive storytelling

feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) — Tue, 13 May 2008 02:18:46 GMT

Well of course those themes were always there but as you said about the theme of Xena's guilt and redemption, I think it's fine for the show to have a recurring theme as long as it develops. It's a huge development from Ares saying "I want you back as my Warrior Queen so I can be stronger as the God of War" to Ares saying "I can become mortal and fight beside you." I mean, yeah, it's always about Ares wanting Xena and Xena resisting (though I think her...

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feeds@yuku.com (natyxg) — Tue, 13 May 2008 02:05:26 GMT

Mmm. I don't know LK. Maybe i oversimplified it, but I don't think it changed all that much either. Either wanting her back, being in love with her, wanting/demanding a child, etc. Ares obssession with Xena was always there, as was Xena's resistance of him. So, at its core, to me, it was pretty much the same thing up until S6 when he's mortal and they're on more equal (healthier) ground. But then, yeah, they reset the button on SP which is a big WTF (the whole episode...

Re: Repetitive storytelling

feeds@yuku.com (LadyKate63) — Tue, 13 May 2008 01:49:02 GMT

Actually, I don't think the X/A relationship was repetitive at all -- it was one of the best-developed storylines on the show, along with Gabrielle's path as a warrior and Xena vs Callisto. "Ares trying to lure Xena back to the dark side" is a pattern that only happens in The Reckoning, Ties That Bind and The Furies. (And maybe The Bitter Suite but there it's all on a very symbolic level.) Even there, their interaction changes -- it's much...

Re: Repetitive storytelling

feeds@yuku.com (natyxg) — Tue, 13 May 2008 01:37:25 GMT

I agree that FIN was a totally recycled storyline. Xena goes to foreign country to clean up a horrible mess from her evil past -- how many times did we see that? Let's see: The Debt, Adventures in the Sin Trade, and finally the Ring trilogy. Enough is enough at some point. Particularly when you throw in other "Xena has to clean up a mess from her past" stories that don't involve...

Re: Repetitive storytelling

feeds@yuku.com (MoyCullen) — Mon, 12 May 2008 19:20:39 GMT

LadyKate63 wrote:
Of course you could argue that FIN was designed in large part to appeal to casual viewers of the show who didn't follow the majority of the episodes but wanted to tune in for the finale, and that because of that they had to try to capture the basic elements of the show. Still, I think they could have done it without quite so much recycling.

This is one of the things that has...

Repetitive storytelling

feeds@yuku.com (natyxg) — Mon, 12 May 2008 00:48:24 GMT

I was thinking about the things I like and hate about AFIN and one of them was the whole 'Xena goes back to fix one of her past mistakes' thing. Like, that's so original! We've only seen it only 3566000 gazillion times before. And it got me thinking, do you think it became too repetitive towards the end? To me, by season 6 Xena had moved a bit away from the guilt trip that were the first few seasons for her and more towards doing good because it was the right thing to do, not...